1) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7394)
Posted 3 Jan 2018 by adrianxw
Not really, the credit here is vast compared to other projects. I can see that by the RAC showing in BOINC Manager. He knows it is excessive. I have removed his project from my list.

With regard to GPU's, they have large numbers of processors, they are not the same as CPU's but they can number crunch. When you have a large, sometimes very large number of processors running, it is pretty obvious that they will run through a lot of jobs in the same time as a single processor core can do. They produce more results, they get more credit. To a somewhat lesser extent, an optimised program will do more than a stock code which has been written to be general and thus, widely distributable. It gets through more work in the same time. I agree that trying to equalize credit across all projects is difficult, but feel that the extremes I see here are counter productive.

Good luck and happy new year to you and to all.
2) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7392)
Posted 31 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
"Rule" is, perhaps, the wrong word. It is, however, not the wrong "concept" in the spirit of BOINC, a fact he has himself acknowledged. I'll be leaving when any already downloaded work units have completed, he knows why.
3) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7390)
Posted 21 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
I am sorry you find my use of language inappropriate, it was the way I learnt to speak basic English 50 years ago. I know things change, certainly the education system seems to have done so.

Travis, himself, acknowledged the basic concept of rough credit equality between projects. It is so, because it gives an even playing field so all projects can run together and expect some results from their project. A project giving out excessive, what is actually a completely worthless "reward", attracts certain types of crunchers away from the other projects.

Projects certainly are different. Some work on a single problem, then finish. Others build a working infrastructure and use it to work on different project approaches, techniques, algorithms etc. over many years. Those you mention are certainly of that type. The Rosetta application running at present didn't exist when the project started, AstroPulse etc. at SETI is similar for example. You don't need to wait for science from them, they publish regularly, and move on. SkyNet has a project called "duchamp" it is still running, but they don't run duchamp anymore, What they should probably have done is called their project SkyNet then run the different algorithms as tasks under that banner. It is a little problem they created for themselves.

I don't believe it should be "democratic", (your choice of term), what I do believe is that BOINC projects should operate under the accepted terms of reference for the benefit of all projects from all researchers.
4) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7388)
Posted 20 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
It is not something that should be open to a vote. He seems to know the basic rules of BOINC. The credit here is quite obviously not in line with other projects. Sure, it is not easy to get all projects exactly matching, there are many reasons why it could never be that way, The premise within BOINC is that the projects should be ROUGHLY the same. As things are right now here, they very clearly are not.
5) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7384)
Posted 17 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
Of CPU projects on here at base priority, (ie. 100), their RAC varies between 1500 and 8000, of course, work unit availability needs to be factored in there. Here. also at 100 priority, my RAC right now is 25,244.

As you said...

>>> the credit rate probably does need to be dropped a bit
6) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7382)
Posted 15 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
I'm a little puzzled by this.

>>> Sarcasm and being ungrateful

I see no sarcasm, that is a simple statement of fact. He has said it will be fixed, and it has not been. You simply need to look at the dates of the posts in this thread to see that. He acknowledges the basically unwritten rule that projects aim to keep credit inline, he is not doing that.

Viz ungrateful, that puzzles me even more. We are doing his work, who do you think should be grateful?

>>> If you did the amount of work

I crunch many projects, under several names and have been doing so since the early predecessors of BOINC in the last century.
7) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7380)
Posted 14 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
>>> couple batches

We've been saying this since June.....
8) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7378)
Posted 13 Dec 2017 by adrianxw
I've tried to get this fixed, but he doesn't seem to want too. At the same Resource share setting, I get 5 times the credit here as I do at other CPU projects, it is by some way, my highest credit awarder, 5-6 times the next highest. I gave up bothering, credit is of no use anyway.
9) Message boards : News : [wildlife] credit reimbursement and credit rate reduction (Message 7188)
Posted 7 Jul 2017 by adrianxw
>>>
I could give a rats azz about science or the other high and noble reasons others crunch for...I crunch for the credits.
<<<

Lets hope that one day when you are dying of cancer or similar, your credits will be able to put you at ease.
10) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7168)
Posted 25 Jun 2017 by adrianxw
My credit is over a million now, in 2 weeks crunching, at regular project priority. Compared with say Rosetta, another CPU based project, this has almost 1.3 million, but has been crunching here at above normal priority, since 2005.

Of CPU based projects, all but 1 have a recent average under 5000, the last has an average of 7000. The recent average here is just short of 30000

I maintain the credit here is too high.
11) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7133)
Posted 10 Jun 2017 by adrianxw
... and a day later, exceeds 700,000.
12) Message boards : Webpage and Application Code Discussion : Excessive credit? (Message 7127)
Posted 9 Jun 2017 by adrianxw
I've only been a cruncher here for a few days, yet, my credit total now exceeds 500,000, more than other projects I have been crunching for years. The quota for the project is not high.