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Message 6631 - Posted: 7 Jan 2017, 16:24:50 UTC

Looks like my estimates for fpops (and credit) were quite a bit low. I've increased them by a factor of 6, which I think should be more in line with what we should be awarding, with a little added bonus for putting up with the new app while it's in alpha testing.

Let me know how this works out. All new workunits should be awarded the new amount of credit and have the new FPOPS estimate.

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Message 6634 - Posted: 8 Jan 2017, 5:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 6631.

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That credit rate is much more acceptable.
Now on par with several other CPU Projects like POGS and Universe.
As long as you keep credits well above what SETI is, you will keep volunteers busy and attract new people.

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Message 6642 - Posted: 8 Jan 2017, 18:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 6634.

Yeah
That credit rate is much more acceptable.
Now on par with several other CPU Projects like POGS and Universe.
As long as you keep credits well above what SETI is, you will keep volunteers busy and attract new people.


Well I definitely want that. :) Now if I can figure out these last few bugs in the assimilator/work generator things should get up and running for real.

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Message 6662 - Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 22:32:58 UTC - in response to Message 6634.

As long as you keep credits well above what SETI is, you will keep volunteers busy and attract new people.

FWIW, I've long ago stopped caring about credit and others like me are only in it for the hours.

Hours: the New New Credit system.

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Message 6663 - Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 23:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 6662.

As long as you keep credits well above what SETI is, you will keep volunteers busy and attract new people.

FWIW, I've long ago stopped caring about credit and others like me are only in it for the hours.

Hours: the New New Credit system.


Honestly CPU hours is probably not a bad system. Can't really mess with it.

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Message 6664 - Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 1:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 6663.

As long as you keep credits well above what SETI is, you will keep volunteers busy and attract new people.

FWIW, I've long ago stopped caring about credit and others like me are only in it for the hours.

Hours: the New New Credit system.


Honestly CPU hours is probably not a bad system. Can't really mess with it.


The hours credit system rewards core count and not work done. Somebody could set up an army of RPI's and get a lot of hours, but not do a lot of work. A few Dual CPU Xeons could stomp the RPI's and get the work done way quicker with a lot fewer cores/hours.

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Message 6665 - Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 1:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 6664.

As long as you keep credits well above what SETI is, you will keep volunteers busy and attract new people.

FWIW, I've long ago stopped caring about credit and others like me are only in it for the hours.

Hours: the New New Credit system.


Honestly CPU hours is probably not a bad system. Can't really mess with it.


The hours credit system rewards core count and not work done. Somebody could set up an army of RPI's and get a lot of hours, but not do a lot of work. A few Dual CPU Xeons could stomp the RPI's and get the work done way quicker with a lot fewer cores/hours.


Yeah, that is true. Seems like credit may just be intractable. :P

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Message 6666 - Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 1:59:13 UTC - in response to Message 6665.

Please keep credit for work.
If someone doesn't care about credits then they can just ignore the credits.

I have an ARM (android phone) keeping 3 cores busy giving 72 hours per day.... but it only does about 1/8 of the work an average CPU can do on the same project.
The only advantage is to rack up hours on WUProp.
For WU's designed for GPU, the hours are usually a small percentage of the CPU hours but give exponentially more work to a project.
I see no reason to equate credits to hours except in a relative comparison to other Projects to maintain interest for the volunteers.
If the individual wishes to "crunch for science" then they can feel free to ignore the credits no matter how they are calculated.
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Message 6668 - Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 4:23:08 UTC - in response to Message 6666.

Please keep credit for work.


Don't worry I have no plans to do anything drastic. :)


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