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Message 6385 - Posted: 21 Sep 2016, 18:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 6378.

~850 people ran SSS in the last 24 hours. That hardly qualifies as dead.
http://csgrid.org/csg/server_status.php

That's not the issue here.

Then you're missing the context. The OP said:

looks like the whole side is dead!

For the whole side (sic) to be dead, you'd be unable to crunch any tasks, watch videos or classify tweets. And obviously you CAN do ALL of those things but are choosing not to because Travis doesn't jump at your command. There must be a lot of live, active projects that you refuse to run.

And yeah, the image thing is a dead duck so far. Big deal. There's plenty of other stuff to do here. If and when that image thing gets fixed, I'll give it a proper go but I'm not going on strike just because of that.

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Message 6387 - Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 7:00:40 UTC - in response to Message 6385.

Then you're missing the context.
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Hehe, no, I simply interpreted it a bit on my own view to fit my need. ;-)
but are choosing not to because Travis doesn't jump at your command. There must be a lot of live, active projects that you refuse to run.

LOL, a funny nice jump to conclusions and a perfect reversion of what I really said.
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Message 6388 - Posted: 30 Sep 2016, 10:16:34 UTC

You all can write whatever you want but you know... I have asked my question over a month ago and still don't have the answer from Travis. Still don't have anything to crunch, no news, just dead silence.

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Message 6393 - Posted: 7 Oct 2016, 9:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 6385.

And obviously you CAN do ALL of those things but are choosing not to because Travis doesn't jump at your command.


I don't want Travis jumping here.
But i want a little bit of respect for volunteers.
Have you finished the project? Ok, no problem. Say it in the forum.
Months and months of silence are a mockery.

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Message 6394 - Posted: 7 Oct 2016, 16:14:47 UTC - in response to Message 6393.

And obviously you CAN do ALL of those things but are choosing not to because Travis doesn't jump at your command.


I don't want Travis jumping here.
But i want a little bit of respect for volunteers.
Have you finished the project? Ok, no problem. Say it in the forum.
Months and months of silence are a mockery.


I will shed some light on this. About two weeks ago I started working on SubsetSum app code to add SSE support for it. During my work I discovered serious bug - bit indexing was done in incorrect way (in function all_ones if you want to check this itself). Because of it app generated incorrect results. I wrote email about it to Travis. Week later I sent another one with reminder and details about one more possible bug (this time in shift_left function). This time I got reply that he was busy and will take a look on this. Soon after this work generator was stopped. I thought that Travis will post some official note about this, but for some reason this did not happen.

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Message 6395 - Posted: 8 Oct 2016, 2:18:52 UTC - in response to Message 6394.


I will shed some light on this. About two weeks ago I started working on SubsetSum app code to add SSE support for it. During my work I discovered serious bug - bit indexing was done in incorrect way (in function all_ones if you want to check this itself). Because of it app generated incorrect results. I wrote email about it to Travis. Week later I sent another one with reminder and details about one more possible bug (this time in shift_left function). This time I got reply that he was busy and will take a look on this. Soon after this work generator was stopped. I thought that Travis will post some official note about this, but for some reason this did not happen.


Thank you Daniel for the info.
Stll not understandable why the project was shut down without any notice.
Anyway, it reminds me on this article:
http://www.sciencealert.com/excel-is-responsible-for-20-percent-of-errors-in-genetic-scientific-papers

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Message 6396 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 3:10:48 UTC

Turn out the lights.... the party's over.

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Message 6397 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 13:55:21 UTC - in response to Message 6394.

And obviously you CAN do ALL of those things but are choosing not to because Travis doesn't jump at your command.


I don't want Travis jumping here.
But i want a little bit of respect for volunteers.
Have you finished the project? Ok, no problem. Say it in the forum.
Months and months of silence are a mockery.


I will shed some light on this. About two weeks ago I started working on SubsetSum app code to add SSE support for it. During my work I discovered serious bug - bit indexing was done in incorrect way (in function all_ones if you want to check this itself). Because of it app generated incorrect results. I wrote email about it to Travis. Week later I sent another one with reminder and details about one more possible bug (this time in shift_left function). This time I got reply that he was busy and will take a look on this. Soon after this work generator was stopped. I thought that Travis will post some official note about this, but for some reason this did not happen.


So all the work so far has been incorrect? I don't see and results for this like its been verified and used for a publication. Sad.

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Message 6398 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 22:41:18 UTC - in response to Message 6397.

And obviously you CAN do ALL of those things but are choosing not to because Travis doesn't jump at your command.


I don't want Travis jumping here.
But i want a little bit of respect for volunteers.
Have you finished the project? Ok, no problem. Say it in the forum.
Months and months of silence are a mockery.


I will shed some light on this. About two weeks ago I started working on SubsetSum app code to add SSE support for it. During my work I discovered serious bug - bit indexing was done in incorrect way (in function all_ones if you want to check this itself). Because of it app generated incorrect results. I wrote email about it to Travis. Week later I sent another one with reminder and details about one more possible bug (this time in shift_left function). This time I got reply that he was busy and will take a look on this. Soon after this work generator was stopped. I thought that Travis will post some official note about this, but for some reason this did not happen.


So all the work so far has been incorrect? I don't see and results for this like its been verified and used for a publication. Sad.

Unfortunately this is the worst case. I did not try to analyze whole algorithm, so I cannot tell if some of them are correct or not.

I looked on that publication and it only mentions that SubsetSum@Home performs calculations, but results were not used for it. Instead authors used results from app written in Java, plus wrote about some theoretical stuff. According to paper it used Java's BigInteger class, so it should not have bugs discovered by me here.

That Java app was later converted to C and used here in SubsetSum@Home. Unfortunately some errors were introduced during that process.
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Message 6400 - Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 9:29:51 UTC

OK,
this explains why the subset wu's were stopped.
But why the DNA wu's ? Are they also faulty?
I mean, this is a project, driven by a UNIVERSTY, not by a private, who just loves fun. Is it wrong to assume, that formulas are proven to work correct ?
Could please someone, who can do that in perfect english, write a note to the university, asking, why volunteers are sinmply ignored by the admins and request a statement?
And just in case that these servers will simply be shut down, the discussions can be continued at BOINC in the project down section.

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Message 6454 - Posted: 10 Nov 2016, 15:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 6396.

Turn out the lights.... the party's over.

Sadly, I have to agree.

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Message 6618 - Posted: 5 Jan 2017, 15:54:45 UTC

Update, PLEASE?

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Message 6619 - Posted: 6 Jan 2017, 20:17:27 UTC - in response to Message 6618.

Update, PLEASE?


Right now getting the Wildlife@Home app up and going is the priority. After I have that running we can get back to DNA@Home. There's only one of me unfortunately!

I'm also waiting on more data sets from our biologists to work with.

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Message 6644 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 17:06:24 UTC - in response to Message 6619.

Thank you!!!

I look forward to running it again.

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Message 6649 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 19:03:53 UTC - in response to Message 6644.

Thank you!!!

I look forward to running it again.


At least there is a ton of Wildlife@Home work to crunch now. :)

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Message 6654 - Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 4:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 6649.



At least there is a ton of Wildlife@Home work to crunch now. :)

Great to have Wildlife work to crunch. It's a shame to lose Subset, in particular the Android aspect of CSG as a whole. This has always been one of my favorite projects due to it's diversity. It is a great place to come to while away some idle time watching videos, classifying tweets or images. Looking forward to new DNA runs and seeing all the little minor bugs worked out of the other sub-projects. Great to see all the recent progress here. Keep up the good work guys and gals!
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Message 7359 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 18:13:42 UTC

Dead project

Bye bye DNA@Home

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